Ok, so I have now hit that low point in my build. Everything seems to be going slow, nothing right and one step forward, two steps back.

I have a set of black overalls that I wanted to lighten to a grey, not by a great deal, but still grey. I washed, bunged in the dryer with softener sheets (as mentioned somewhere). I then hit with some predye, which seemed to lighten a little, making me think it was working. I then washed with a grey dye, and voila, back to exactly the same shade of absolute black they started.

Does anybody have any ideas on how to remove the stain protection as I imagine this is what is causing the problem? Or am I completely going the wrong way with what the problem is?
Also, I remember somebody posted a link to a person that make vests with an elasticated back to make them adjust and give a fitted look. Thought I had bookmarked, but apparently not. It had a few good pictures in it, and considering I am now about to start making my fourth iteration of my vest, I want this to be the last. (for this build anyway).

Thanks