Jark'osa's WIP - Current Stage:: Finished

[Byrek Avery]

Now that you mention something, I see it.

[D'Larian Ferrel Verda]

Kilryth, I have been looking between the two pictures, and I think I know why yours looks "off". In Jango's,  the bells are wider at the top with a small angle. kinda like a profile of a gem. Yours are angled differently, here is what I mean, please excuse the ms paint crappiness, Photoshop takes too long to open for something like this.



I hope these make sense. If not, I will explain what I mean at the AP on Saturday.

-Brandi

[Drak Fiurr Verda]

What Brandi said is correct. I picked up on the bell thing earlier but after I looked at it i noticed what she stated In order to eliminate that aspect if he wanted to he'd need to decrease the angle. If he wanted to that is.

[Jark'osa Hauza]

Kilryth, I have been looking between the two pictures, and I think I know why yours looks "off". In Jango's,  the bells are wider at the top with a small angle. kinda like a profile of a gem. Yours are angled differently, here is what I mean, please excuse the ms paint crappiness, Photoshop takes too long to open for something like this.



I hope these make sense. If not, I will explain what I mean at the AP on Saturday.

-Brandi

That makes perfect sense actually.  Thanks for pointing this out!  I just checked on my vest.  This explains a lot.  I snapped my plate to the curvature of the shoulder, instead of the curvature of Jango's pad.  I can unsnap the bottom snapes & resnap them closer to the seam, which would bring the shoulders in closer, and make them look less like wings.  I'm going to do this!  Thanks for pointing this out!  I'll post pics once finished.

I was working in paint, and I noticed my vest slants inward more than jangos at the armpit.  Mine slants in at a steady angle all the way down... but his lets up and goes straight down at less of an angle after going halfway down the plate.

Anyone have suggestions on the leg armor?  It was posted up above before Byrek's comment.  The pants look baggier than usual because of how I was rushing around & leaning to get a camera shot.  This flight suit fits me perfectly at the shoulders, waist, arms, and boot length. I went with a smaller size and regular instead of long earlier.. it was too small.  If you have suggestions on how to pull in the inseam & some of the extra bagginess on the legs, let your thoughts fly!

I plan to use the slit + elastic method for knees & shins.  Using holsters to hold the thighs on.  Using an inner belt & elastic snap to flight suit to hold the cod piece on... may go with the boba thong if needed.

[Jark'osa Hauza]

Thank you so much again Byrek, D'Larian, and Drak!!  I knew the shoulders looked funny, but I couldn't put my finger on it.  I ended up drilling out the bottom snaps and bringing the bottom corners in closer to the vest (so that the shoulder slants from the seam to 3/8" away from the seam, which is about the same distance Jango's is it looks like..

Here's a picture.  Now the shoulders actually look like shoulders and not wings!!



Does that look better?

I tried to bring the tops of the shoulders down some more so it pulls closer to the suit, but I could not heatmold this portion due to the barrel curve.  The vinyl sleeve is sewn on to stick out more like bird wings, so when I attached the armor like this, it does not follow the contour of the sleeve.  I'm ok with this though if you are.

[Kel T Skirata]

Looks great bud, spot on

[Jark'osa Hauza]

Looks great bud, spot on

Thanks Kel!!

A side note:  I don't know why all my photos make it hard to see the seem of the left shoulder on the vest.  It must have something to do with the lighting b/c they're the same distance (thanks to my handy dandy measuring tape)

[Kel T Skirata]

It will look different and bulk you up once you have the flightsuit on. It will look great

[Remo Jadd]

Another suggestion is too trim down the shoulders so the fit the shoulder flaps more like Jango's and not sticking out over the edge.

[D'Larian Ferrel Verda]

That looks alot better. Definitely less like wings now. The way they sat before, they were nearly parallel to the floor.    As Remo said, perhaps trimming a little closer to the vest would help it a bit too.

Bring your suit to the AP and maybe we can figure out how to fix the bagginess of the suit. We can also get a good picture of you with your whole kit on you without you having to mess with a timer on a camera.

[Jark'osa Hauza]

Thanks, D'Larian!  I'll definitely bring my kit to the AP.  My wife normally takes pics of me, but she was out of town this past weekend.  I mainly need to bring the flight suit I think.  The inseam is the primary area that I'm having issues with.  The Cod either sits too low to cover it, or the inseam pokes out a little when the Cod rests comfortably.  Thinking of either sewing part of the inseam up to itself so it doesn't dangle as low, or going with some hybrid form of a boba-thong lol.

Another suggestion is too trim down the shoulders so the fit the shoulder flaps more like Jango's and not sticking out over the edge.

Thanks for the suggestion!  Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to be an option.  The problem is the vest shoulder.  The seamstress made it smaller than Jango's but larger than Boba's.  Now that I've brought the shoulder in more, it is fighting the curvature of the vest (forcing it to bunch up REALLY bad underneath).  It's not visible though.

Fortunately, I'm a big fan of Boba's "hang-off" style shoulderplates (kinda wish I bought some of his instead of Jangos...  but at the same time, they might be too wide at the shoulder for my smaller arms... and they'd limit my movement more.

If I trimmed the shoulder down much more, it would expose the small size of the shoulder and the bunching.

I can trim a little (less than 1/2", more like 1/4") off the bottom and outside of the shoulders... but trimming too much may cause them to be disproportionate.  Right now they are proportionate to the armor and WOF template.  See the picture below to see how it'd be affected.



The black line is how small the vest is and how much it bunches up underneath (the weird black line in middle is the bunching)

The red line is if I were to trim the shoulders to pull in closer to the vest shoulder.  Cutting one edge would make it look skinny, so I'd have to cut the other edge.. and then the outside would look too skinny and disproportionate to the inside edges.  So I'd have to trim those...

Which brings us to the green lines... now the shoulder's getting small & disproportionate to the chest piece. & my arm.  Not only that, but I'd have to move the shoulder up close the seam again.. cutting more holes, risking showing the mangled vest fabric, and giving minimal gain of having the shoulder edge flush with the vest shoulder.


Having said ALL that, lol, I think there's two practical options:

A) Don't worry about it

B) Sew a small patch of additional vinyl between the vest  and the start of the bottom edge of the shoulder.  This would give a flush fit of the shoulder edge with the vest.  However, it would also add an unusual layered "feather" look that might stand out like a sore thumb (and it might fold down irregularly)

I'm personally fond of option A, since I like hang-off shoulders to begin with.  It'll be less noticeable with my flight suit on, once I dye it a darker brown & add the double sleeve.  My armor is already a crossbreed between Boba and Jango.  Since this post has already grown rediculously long, I'll detail my mix below:

Shoulders - Jango
Collar & back - Jango
Chest & ab - Boba (proportionately)
Girth - Boba
Pouches - Jango
Kidney plate - Boba
Cod - Jango
Thighs - Jango
Knees - Boba
Shins - Jango
Boots - Jango
Gauntlets - Boba
Holsters - Jango & Solo influenced  (aka Buscadero Cowboy style)

You know... all this talk about Jango's shoulders has made me realize something:  I think the exposed shoulder fabric takes away from the armored look... the fabric grabs my attention more than plate.  I think that's why I like Boba's upper body & helmet better (aside from colors & weathering).. it's more armored looking & less fabric exposed.

[Remo Jadd]

That's fair enough on the shoulders. As it is at the moment it isn't a deal breaker. You've done great work this far so keep it up .

[Jark'osa Hauza]

That's fair enough on the shoulders. As it is at the moment it isn't a deal breaker. You've done great work this far so keep it up .

Thanks Remo!

Probably won't be posting pics or anything new/exciting for a little while because I'm working a lot of little things.

My biggest concern right this moment is blaster Audio files...  I'm going to be working on my blaster electronics this weekend at our Armor Party, but I need a good rapid-fire blaster audio file.  I tried repeating the same single-blast, but it sounds redundant.  I've found that taking a multi-blast clip from the movie sounds better.  So if anyone has suggestions on a good blaster audio file (with more than one shot in a row), let me know.  So far, the best I've got is Jango's Kamino battle with Obi-Wan.  I don't want any high-pitch blasts.

Any suggestions on Audio files?? I'm open to editing them a little too...

[D'Larian Ferrel Verda]

Another option would be to use one that isn't Star Wars but still Sci-Fi. They  mostly sound the same. Andrew said he will look for a couple options for you.

[Jark'osa Hauza]

Another option would be to use one that isn't Star Wars but still Sci-Fi. They  mostly sound the same. Andrew said he will look for a couple options for you.

Thanks Andrew & Brandi! 

It's tough finding rapid fire blaster sounds, mainly because I don't have time to watch all 6 movies (and sit there just listening to the sounds... i'd forget to listen for them & just watch).

Towards the end of the Hoth battle scene, the millenium falcon fires at a snowtrooper pretty quickly... and it kinda sounds like a blaster pistol... not too deep, not too high pitched.  That's the biggest problem I run into... so many guns sound BIG or like spaceship guns.

I haven't listened to too many generic sci fi gun sounds... I'll have to do that.  I'm just used to hearing Star Wars and star trek phasers lol.