Tobias Creed's Belt Problems

[Tobias Creed]

For those of you that look at my finished product thread told me the belt was in the wrong place. If you havent read the thread, go find it to update yourselves.

Old spot


New spot


Another new spot pic


So basically the girth and ammo belt are placed where that useless second ab plate is. That is the lowest I can place it. I cant go lower because thats where my gut slops down and that wouldnt look right...trust me.

TRUTHFULLY! I dont know if I'm putting the girth belt in the right place in relation with the ammo belt. I should have done all this way back when I started to save me the time, money, frustrations and being denied 3 times.

So let me know, you can even take my picture into MS paint and draw circles, lines, and such to show me where it will go. And that will help because if you show me a placement of something on my body in that picture....I can (hopefully) locate it. LOL!

[Taglar Dreskk]

The location looks good.  Only thing I might try is to see if you can center the leather belt on the girth belt, so that the girth belt shows from both the top and bottom.  Just personal asthetics...used to seeing Boba, Jango, and Jedi with their belts centered on the girth/obi.

If it won't sit there without rolling over or sliding down, then it's ok where it is.

[BedlamX]

What Tag said.

Personally, I like the girth belt to ride a bit higher. I use a full, Boba style cod piece and I like the look of the girth belt just barely over lapping the top edge of it. I think the look is better if it has to be a bit hihgh than having it a little low. If the belt is comfortable where it is, I would suggest making the girth belt slightly wider so you have some above and some below the leather belt. If you have trouble keeping the belt from slipping down throughout the day, go ahead and give the suspenders a try. Either the combat style over the plates or even some more traditional ones under the vest. I think some strips of leather would not look too out of place coming from beneath theh vest and hooking to the belt.

By the way, it looks MUCH better without the extra ab plate. Can we get a pic sometime of this current set-up with the cod plate on? I think it would help to better see how the belt location is fitting in the overall spacing.

[Tobias Creed]

Yeah I should probably get you guys a pic where the cod goes. I think my body type may throw a wrench into this.

So do you think I can get by with the new belt placement with the same plates as now? (I won't be surprise if this is a no).

[Taglar Dreskk]

Not sure.  Honestly I think you may need to change up the shape of the plates to fit you better.  Here's an idea:



You can use your old chest plates as a guide to help make these new plates...which I think might fit your body frame better.  They are just as wide as your current plates at the armpits...

Making them wider in total, and then cutting into the armpit area is actually beginning to be very popular, as it allows more arm movement and allows the armor to cover more of the chest as well.  You may be able to use some of the previous armor attachment points as well if done right.

Once we get the chest armor worked out, we can move on to the codpiece and below the belt.

[Tobias Creed]

I kind of want to keep as close to Jango and Boba. Those plate ideas look awesome but I prefer to keep with the Boba/Jango look.

[Taglar Dreskk]

Well, not sure what else to tell ya then.  The armor needs to be a bit wider to fit your frame.

[Hondo Karr]

Thing is Boba cut plates don't work for all body types. Sometimes things need to be modded some. Just a nature of the beast. Boba plates were designed for a tall thin guy and Jango's were designed for a medium height athletic build guy. You can get a little play with them but at the end of the day they wont work for everyone. They sure as hell dont work for me and many others have found that they need to be modded for them as well. Youre getting alot of good info from people with similar issues to work around. I suggest at least mocking some of this stuff up in posterboard and at least considering it. The otehr optiuon is to transform your body instead of the plates. A very commendable goal but it is a long term process. The plates alterations can be done in a day.

Also, as much as I have a personal dislike for loincloths, perhaps you should consider raising the belt as suggested and using velcro attached the bottom hem of the vest to help keep it in play. If that plays havoc with wearing a cod plate, which is may well unless it's made to look like an armored banana to cover the extra length, you may be best suited to use a loincloth instead.

Again, as I stated before, I think a very plausible idea for you would be the Legacy plates. They are longer and larger, they overlap and leave no funky gaps and such. Also because theyre essentially a series of bands, they work better than the V tapered plates. If you used those type of plates, and Raltho and Ijaat have posted up the templates, you should be able to size everything right and still use a cod without having to worry abot raising belts etc.

[Tobias Creed]

Raltho started with his Legacy pieces already and for all that has done...he isn't very far. I will be borrowing 3mm sintra from Raltho and I don't think he will have enough for me when he is done. But we will weigh my options when we get to that.

[Tobias Creed]

Someone requested pics of my belt in relation to the cod piece.

[BedlamX]

Belt looks like it's about the right height. Kinda tough to see with the black material over lapping beneath the belt and girth. I'm a big fan of wider girth belts, myself. I would add another inch or so to the width of the girth to help shore up the distance between the belt and the ab plate.

Is the black that looks like a shirt tail the vest bottom? If so, it kinda makes it look like you just have a shirt tail hanging out to me. In my opinion, it would help the looks of the belts to shorten the vest up to just above them, move the ab plate down to where the bottom of it snaps onto the snaps for your old extra ab plate and adjust the rest of the plates to fill in the chest. I think I read that you were doing new plates anyway, so I would try using those lower snaps as the bottom of your vest and ab plate.

Do you think you will need the suspenders with the belt at that location? It turns into a "feel" thing since only you can feel if it will want to slip down or not. All the improvements are looking good so far. Keep it up 

[Tobias Creed]

The black material under the belts and covering the cod is what you are asking. That is the vest. Its kind of long. I need to figure out how to shorten it.

I will use combat suspenders because with my pouches, they will slip and the suspenders will come in handy.