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Author Topic: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs  (Read 46040 times)

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #15 on: Jun 17, 2009, 09:13 PM »
Bobamaker is a 1:1 like Sgt Fang and Gypsyboy.

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #16 on: Jun 18, 2009, 11:46 AM »
Taglar is correct... Bobamaker would be the same size as the Gypsyboy in the original pic. It's larger than the 2 piece Jango.

Not to knock BobaMaker as his Boba helmet's are truely cream of the crop. But, unless you plan to make a screen accurate Boba Fett or, you absolutly HAVE to HAVE fiberglass, cuz you're allergic to resin or something.... buying a Bobamaker instead of a Gypsyboy or Sgt. Fang is a waste of $100.00 (as that's the approx price difference) if you're building a custom Mando.

If you look at the original photo lineup I posted, it shows  from left to right 1 piece Boba (smallest), 1 piece Jango (slightly larger), 2 piece Jango (medium sized), Don Post 1995 ( large-medium), Gypsyboy (1:1 movie sized, any helmet labeled as 1:1 would be this size). Not pictured is the Cruzer/BKBT helmet which is about 10-15% larger than the 1:1 helmets and is the absolute largest you can get without scratchbuilding.

If you think the rubies 2 piece may be tetering on being to small, most likely the 1:1 helmet would be much to large. The Don Post 1995/1996 helmet may be perfect for you. You can get the Don Pos 95 or 96's on ebay from time to time or occasionally in our trading station or the cargo hold at TDH. However, you will likely spend over $100.00 for it as 1. it's a good sculpt and 2. it does have some collectors value. The main downside to this is it's a vinyl helmet and comes with all the issues that vinyl helmets have.

However, Asok is currently selling cold cast Jango Fett style helmets in the Don Post 95/96 size. He has a thread up in our trading station. Price is $140.00 shipped and turn around time is about 1 week. It's a resin helmet with aluminum powder already mixed in so you can polish it silver instead of having to paint it silver. Also, if any of your topical paint wears or chips away over time, it will show silver below instead of white. It's a complete kit, range finder, stalk, ear caps, key slots etc.

Hope that helps.
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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #17 on: Jun 18, 2009, 02:22 PM »
Thanks for the help. I think the shape (less flare at the bottom?) of the Bobamaker and the picture's angle gave me the impression it was smaller than 1:1.
 In regards to the Jango 2 piece, I actually think it might be too big for me. Without armor I look a bit like a bobblehead, which would be fine but the inside just seems really roomy and would require a lot of padding.  I might have to go with the Jango 1 piece or take a bit off the bottom of the Jango 2 piece and pad it up. The elongated dome of the Rubies might have something to do with it, the Gypsyboy looks much rounder in the top view picture.

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #18 on: Jun 18, 2009, 02:47 PM »
I see you're in LA. How soon are you planning on having armor complete? Do you intend to attend SDCC as either a Mando or a fan? It might be a good idea to either hook up with one of our LA Clan armor parties or if you go to SDCC, that way you can see in real life the different helmets and maybe try them on.

Again, the helmet should look slightly bobblish when you wear it out of armor. The armor will add alot of bulk to your body and will bring the helmet sizing issuing into par. Actually having alot of room inside the helmet is a good thing! It alllows for air flow. You get very hot very fast in full armor. It will also help reduce visor fogging. When you pad the helmet, use no more than you must. If you can just put a foam band around the interior crown of the helmet and that will keep it from rolling around on your head, that would be perfect. The foam band will help with sweat collection. Also, if you don't pad around the back of the head and ears, that will help keep cool.
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here are links to mercs members making and selling quality helmets:

here's gypsyboy's:
http://mercs.firespray.net/forum/index.php?topic=12162.msg209374#new

here's asok's:
http://mercs.firespray.net/forum/index.php?topic=14171.0
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The help is much appreciated!  I'll definitely be taking your advice about the strategic padding, it does get really hot in there!

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Here's an update on this thread. I put this pic together to be added to the CRL's:


The top row is me.
The first pic is in my Jaing Skirata Version 1.0 armor. The helmet is a 1 piece Rubies Deluxe Jango Fett helmet. My chin hangs out of the bottom of the helmet and the helmet is far to narrow and short.
The second pic is me in my A'den 1.0 armor. It is the same armor as the Jaing set but highly modded and repainted. The helmet is a Don Post 95. The size is much better. It's close but no cigar. The helmet is still too narrow and although the chin is now covered, the back of my neck is exposed to accomplish this.
The third pic is me in my last upgrades prior to the SDCC upgrades. The helmet is a 1:1 Gypsyboy MOvie Sized helmet. The height width and length are correct for my body and armor type.

The bottom row is my brother.
The first pic is his Mereel Skirata Verison 1.0 armor. The helmet is a Rubies 1 piece Deluxe Boba Fett. The armor itself is subpar but, the helmet is clearly to small. Too narrow, to short and the chin hung out the bottom.
The second pic is my brother in his Mereel Version 2 armor. The helmet is my old Don Post 95. The helmet is now sized corectly to his body and armor. The problem with the kit at the moment is not that the helmet is too big, it's that the shoulders are too small. A much cheaper and easier fix than a new helmet.
The third pic is my brother in his MEreel kit with his SDCC upgrades. The helmet is the same Don Post 95 helmet. However, the upgrade done to balance the helmet was to dd new, wider shoulders to the kit that foucs the eye downa nd out rather than up and in.

This should be a template to use when you select the helmet for your armor and body and for when you design your armor. Regardless of your body type and size, you can find a helmet that fits you. Although I am adamantly against the Rubies 1 piece helmets, if they will fit your frame, they are the proper helmet to select. At no point have we at the MErcs or will we, unless you're build a screen accurate Fett, tell you that you have to buy a $300.00 Bobamaker helmet or a $400.00 BKBT helmet. But, we will tell you to buy the helmet that fits you best. In general, unless you are VERY small, a 1 piece Rubies or Jango will NOT work for you. In general, medium/large to large framed men NEED a 1:1 movie sized helmet. Medium framed men need something sized to the Don Post 95 or the Asok LFL Jango helmet. A smaller framed man can wear a Rubies 2 piece Jango. For woemn, most women can wear a 2 piece Jango or a Don Post 95. GEnerally a movie sized helmet will be too big. The 1 piece Rubies should really be saved for children unless you're so small that you're the exception to the rule.
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This is GREAT stuff.  I love that you have taken the time to make sure all VODE are getting what they need in respect to their buckets and sizing. I've got a big head (hey, no jokes), and I was concerned about which bucket to get. This is fantastic...man I love this place!
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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #23 on: Aug 29, 2009, 01:16 AM »
Taglar is correct... Bobamaker would be the same size as the Gypsyboy in the original pic. It's larger than the 2 piece Jango.

Hey A'den, just a small bit of info: Bobamaker helmets are actually smaller than the GB  in certain dimensions. I'm not sure which version of the GB I got to compare it with (it's Frost S'do helmet) but the GB was actually taller and extended forward to back a bit more than the BM. Overall, to just look, the GB seems larger than a BM by a small amount.

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quick question, what kind of helmet do you think i should get? donpost or gypseboy? i am 15, and i am around... 150ish.... which one?
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Th ebest thing you could do is hook up with some clanmates and try on some different sizes. I would guess that at your age a gypsyboy would look silly on you. You are probably going to need a 2 piece Jango or a Don Post.
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i think i will go with the donpost, is ther any diffrence in 96 or 95?
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95 or 96 are the same. Both are easy to find on ebay. I just picked one up for a new clan member for 63.00 shipped. If you see some chakaar selling a helmet listed as a Don Post 97, don;t be fooled, it's a Boba Rubies 1 piece.
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ok, thanks, i will prolbey get it for my b-day =p ;D
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quick question, what kind of helmet do you think i should get? donpost or gypseboy? i am 15, and i am around... 150ish.... which one?

If anyone would be kind enough to help me out on this too; I'm rather tall (190 cms or 6'3''), medium build (see photo) and have a DP 96. Will that work, or should I definitely consider something larger?

Thanks in advance!

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