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Author Topic: HELMET SIZING AND BUYING TUTORIAL. Please read before asking all the answered Qs  (Read 57461 times)

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we get alot of questions here about helmet sizes, qualities etc. many of us that have been around a bit have answered the same questons many times. so, i thought i'd take the time and my most recent helmet related post and make a brief "tutorial" on helmet sizing and quality.

if you go to the trading forum, you'll see gypyboy is doing mando helmets for about 80.00. just have to wait for the next run. also, icktan westdar is preping runs of a custom mando-commando helmet for about the same cost. if you want a fett style, sgt. fang over at tdh has cleaned up the old "mystery helmet" and is making continuos orders on those for about 100.00

if it's a funds issue, i would recommend you save a bit longer and invest in th better helmet to start with( a rubies 1 piece jango will cost you 60.00-80.00 shipped). many of us "old timers" here have made the mistake of continuos upgrades to our helmets.... 3-5 helmets, hundreds of dollars and tons of time later we ended up with marrow suns, boba makers, gypsyboys, sgt. fangs etc. i personally am on my 5th helmet, although my 2nd was a keeper it was retired. i currently have a gypsyboy boba i modded and i love it. it's full movie sized and well built.

just my personal opinion here however, most will agree...
boba 1 piece boba: good for young kids only
jango 1 and 2 piece: good for petite to medium women, children and petite men
don post 95-96: good for med or larger women and medium framed men
if you dont fall into on of those, you'll need a movie sized helmet which would be gypsyboy, sgt. fang, boba maker or the wizard of flight templates (for those who wish to make there own).
if you are especially large framed, there is 1 maker of jango fett helmets that makes a helmet that's about 10% larger than the 1:1 helmets. i don't know the maker off hand however, i have a friend with one and i can obtain that info for you if you pm me.

another thing to consider is that the helmet should look slightly large compared to your body if you put it on out of armor. wearing the armor adds alot of size to your frame. so, if you get a helmet that looks proportionat to your body out of armor, youll look likea pellet head in armor. while you shouldnt look like a funko bobblehead with it on out of armor, you should look like you're getting there.

Here is a side x side comparison of buckets and sizes:
left to right...
rubies 1 piece boba, rubies 1 piece jango, rubies 2 piece jango, don post 95, gypsyboy (the one on the end is a rohlan dyre type crusader era helmet)


Courtosey of Taglar Dressk. Gypsyboy vrs. Rubies 1 piece Jango Fett.





to give you an idea of how the helmet looks in relation to the armor for accurate sizing, here's some pix pf me in my armor:

1st helmet, rubies 1 piece. my chin hangs out the bottom and the helmet looks small compared to the armor


3rd helmet, don post 95. helmet size is a bit better but, still small compared to the armor. my chin doesn't hang out anymore but, my face is smooshed against the visor and to get the front to cover the chin, the helmet is tilted so far forward, that the back of my neck is exposed


current helmet, gypsyboy 1:1 movie accurate size. proper fit and proper size ratio to armor


here is a pic of my oldest son in a rubies 1 piece (9 years old)


my youngest son in a rubies jango 1 piece (6 years old)


my gf's son in a rubies 2 piece (7 years old)


my brother in a rubies 1 piece boba, notice how small the helmet/head looks compared to his body (dont mind the rubbish plates they're way to small as well!) his head was lierally smashed into that helmet!


my brother in his upgraded armor with (my old) don post 95 helmet. size ratio corrected. he's a medium build adult 5'10 180lbs.


At the end of the day, you can get a quality resin helmet for only a bit more than a latex helmet that will warp with heat. a quality fiberglass helmet will cost nearly double that of a resin helmet and a really nice cold cost helmet made wih aluminum powder (so you can buff it silver for your base coat) can cost up to and over 300.00. for most costumers, especially customs, i would recommend the resin 1:1 helmets.

i hope this helps with your helmet sizing options!
« Last Edit: Jun 18, 2009, 06:39 PM by A'den Skirata »

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 05:10 AM »
This is a great tutorial A'den. Having the pictures for reference really helps for a comparison. Thanks.

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 12:05 PM »
Thanks, vod!  This was helpful.
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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 12:14 AM »
I'm currently looking at buckets for my upcoming mando and this has helped greatly, but is there any chance of one favour ...

Shots from the side comparing size that way.  I have a long head and I fit nicely into a rubies 2 piece and a don post 95, but I want something a little better then those, one of GB's ones.

Is there any chance you could take a shot of them from the side, specifically the DP 95 next to GB?

Thanks for the help and fantastic thread!

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 12:23 AM »
I'm currently looking at buckets for my upcoming mando and this has helped greatly, but is there any chance of one favour ...

Shots from the side comparing size that way.  I have a long head and I fit nicely into a rubies 2 piece and a don post 95, but I want something a little better then those, one of GB's ones.

Is there any chance you could take a shot of them from the side, specifically the DP 95 next to GB?

Thanks for the help and fantastic thread!

I never even thought of that! I can get to it in a day or two. I'll add the pix to the original post.

I can tell you though, my nose was smooshed against the visor on the DP95 and on the GB, it doesn't even touch it.

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 03:59 AM »
Not to hijack A'den's thread, but here are a few comparison shots Talon clan took at our latest armor party.

Rubies 1piece, Gypsyboy, Bobamaker (in that order)





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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 07:25 AM »
possibly a shot from under the buckets, i want a GB, but im not sure if my head will fit lol ... a long head sucks at times

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 08:56 AM »
Nice work guys!  Added to helmet info thread under new title "helmet size comparisons"

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #8 on: Jun 12, 2009, 06:40 PM »
To add to this...

Best quality Vs. best price for custom builders... go with the Gypsyboy or Sgt. Fang resin helmets. Even if they are a bit tall for you, you can do as Taglar did... mark the helmet off and simply cut excess height off of the bottom of the helmet.

No helmet is perfect. All materials have their flaws... vinyl and plastic helmets can warp/deform in heat, seals on 2 piece helmets can crack and come undone over time, resin can break/crack and fiberglass can as well.

I think most people are careful with their buckets, more so than the rest of their kit. However, accidents happen. The nice thing about resin and fiberglass helmets (I reviewed no FB glass helmets as they run near $300.00 and up and are built to be movie replica's of the Fett's, they're more cost than value to custom Mando builders) is if they break, they are easily repaired. Vinyle and plastic buckets not so much do to their flimsy design. Any "hard" compounds you use to repair them can/will crack away from teh rest of the helmet if the conditions are right.

I said go Gypsyboy or Sgt. Fang. Gypsyboy is local, here on Mercs. We should support our own. Sgt. Fang is on TDH and while I've contacted him several times to try to get him to set up shop here, he hasn't to date. Gypsyboy beats Sgt. Fang on price by about 1/4 of the total cost. Also, from what I've seen in pix, Gypsyboy's helmets are thicker, thus more durable, than Sgt. Fang's. The one advantage Sgt. Fang offers over Gypsyboy is speed of availablility. For a Gypsyboy, you need to get on a run list and could be made to wait for a helmet. Sgt. Fang currently has a stock of helmets ready to go and, even when  those are depleted, he does helmets on a per order basis. You don't have to wait for a run.

I hope this helps all those looking for a new or first helmet!

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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #9 on: Jun 12, 2009, 09:36 PM »
Okay, here's a question for all the folks with glasses...I am a very petite female (just under 5'), but I'm going to need a helmet that leaves room for my hair and glasses.  I measured around my head with the hair done up right and the glasses on and got about 26" (that's with a little wiggle room).  Which of these would probably fit the best?  And do any of them cause problems with your glasses when you take them on and off?
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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #10 on: Jun 12, 2009, 10:15 PM »
i know in gypsyboys thread, he put dimensions of his helmet after receiving several requests. i wear my contacts when i wear my bucket  but, i know not all can do that. many i know just go without and hope for the best! i know of at least 1 fett over at tdh that took and old pair of glasses and actually permanatly installed them into the interior of his helmet so when he puts his helmet on he's looking right through hs glasses and out the visor.

here's a pic. not very big but, you can see the glasses mounted inside.

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« Last Edit: Jun 12, 2009, 11:58 PM by A'den Skirata »

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« Reply #11 on: Jun 13, 2009, 01:33 AM »
Okay, here's a question for all the folks with glasses...I am a very petite female (just under 5'), but I'm going to need a helmet that leaves room for my hair and glasses.  I measured around my head with the hair done up right and the glasses on and got about 26" (that's with a little wiggle room).  Which of these would probably fit the best?  And do any of them cause problems with your glasses when you take them on and off?

I cannot say for the others, but I can tell you it is impossible on anything equal or smaller then the Don Post to fit glasses. That's how I ended up having my DP: my friend got tired of not being able to wear glasses in conventions.

in facts, I had to adjust the padding and general shape of the DP to fit in a somewhat confortable manner... its not exactly big.

(if this bit of info helps...)
« Last Edit: Jun 13, 2009, 01:35 AM by Olos'Nay »
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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #12 on: Jun 13, 2009, 11:52 PM »
i know in gypsyboys thread, he put dimensions of his helmet after receiving several requests.

Any chance you could find the link?  I looked but couldn't find it. 

I've seriously been considering contacts (and not just for the Mercs; trying to march a halftime show with fogged-up lenses is no fun), but I know there are plenty of people who can't.  Thanks for the responses!
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 14, 2009, 01:46 AM »
I wore glasses since I was 5 yr old (no joke) - always hated it. My teachers had to force me to wear them.

Now I have lens. I don't love it, but its better then the glasses in my opinion. just gotta get used to it.

you can always alternate between the both.

its very useful for costuming, sporting, dating, etc... lol.

(I'm dead serious about sports - I became instantly better in mosts sports without my glasses, as what makes that you see better also displace the perceived position of what you see, so for most sports you are disadvantaged with the glasses while lens correct it not in front, but within your eyes.)
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Re: helmet sizing tutorial.
« Reply #14 on: Jun 17, 2009, 05:35 PM »
Does anyone have a comparison between the Bobamaker and 2 piece Jango?

 I recently got the 2 piece Jango because I wasn't sure on the sizing and figured I could use it for size comparison if it didn't fit. I know it's supposed to look a bit big without armor, but I still feel it is way too roomy inside.  I could go with the one piece rubies, although I think that might be too small. Looking at the photos it looks as if the bobamaker is an in between size. Is this right?

 


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